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Sunface Jack's avatar

I would volunteer to be on the firing squad for those shown a) Wang Yanyi? b) Shi Zhengli c) Christian Drosten d) Ulf Dittmer e) Dongliang Yang f) Chen Xinwen. It's about time that they are charged with crimes against humanity. Never mind the crimes against animals used in their research. Just saying

Jolene's avatar

“Now, if you were a detective investigating a crime – for instance, the creation of a supposedly deadly virus (whether it was in fact so deadly is, of course, another matter) – whose behaviour would you find suspicious? The behaviour of those who themselves expressed concern about a lab-leak and were keen on investigating the matter – including, n.b., none other than Anthony Fauci, who even suggested contacting the FBI – or the behaviour of those who were dismissive and defensive and tried to shut the conversation down?”

It’s not either/or. It’s all.

DrBines verbales Vitriol's avatar

More on AD Osterhaus:

1. Osterhaus knew wbout the role of ACE2 in disease:

Hamming I, Cooper ME, Haagmans BL, Hooper NM, Korstanje R, Osterhaus AD, Timens W, Turner AJ, Navis G, van Goor H. The emerging role of ACE2 in physiology and disease. J Pathol. 2007 May;212(1):1-11. doi: 10.1002/path.2162. PMID: 17464936; PMCID: PMC7167724. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17464936/

2. Osterhaus published with Drosten on SARS:

Rota PA, Oberste MS, Monroe SS, Nix WA, Campagnoli R, Icenogle JP, Peñaranda S, Bankamp B, Maher K, Chen MH, Tong S, Tamin A, Lowe L, Frace M, DeRisi JL, Chen Q, Wang D, Erdman DD, Peret TC, Burns C, Ksiazek TG, Rollin PE, Sanchez A, Liffick S, Holloway B, Limor J, McCaustland K, Olsen-Rasmussen M, Fouchier R, Günther S, Osterhaus AD, Drosten C, Pallansch MA, Anderson LJ, Bellini WJ. Characterization of a novel coronavirus associated with severe acute respiratory syndrome. Science. 2003 May 30;300(5624):1394-9. doi: 10.1126/science.1085952. Epub 2003 May 1. PMID: 12730500. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12730500/

3. Osterhaus knows about gp120

Guillon C, Schutten M, Boers PH, Gruters RA, Osterhaus AD. Antibody-mediated enhancement of human immunodeficiency virus type 1 infectivity is determined by the structure of gp120 and depends on modulation of the gp120-CCR5 interaction. J Virol. 2002 Mar;76(6):2827-34. doi: 10.1128/jvi.76.6.2827-2834.2002. PMID: 11861850; PMCID: PMC135957.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11861850/

Alamo Dude's avatar

Another interesting data dot to connect Germany with. Merkel had an interesting visit to Wuhan in September 2019. When she returned and started stock piling Health PPE, Germany had the lowest Cov19 mortality rate in the Western world.

Pray With Your Legs's avatar

Chesterton said, the business of a man is to discover reality, and once he has to pass it along. Discovering the “virus” creation extends beyond the US border to Germany and Netherlands is important, but justice requires the agonizingly slow and expensive legal system, and prevention, requires the absence of a “young Frankenstein” global mindset (inherent in a nefarious public-private partnership) enhanced by money and power.

While going through the bad acid trip of Covid the Broad Institute in Boston simultaneously publishes a paper describing their gain of function research on a virus with a 70-80% lethality rate.

Congress can not get agency heads to answer questions regarding a host of issues.

In my opinion, we need to remove the WEF spike proteins otherwise known as young global leaders from our medical, political, legal, banking, etc systems in order to restore our stability and sanity.

Domini Gordon's avatar

“I am overloaded with nCoV patient-related work” says Drosten on 9 Feb 2020. What exactly was he doing?

Baldmichael's avatar

Perhaps he meant 'patent' related work. :) There' a lot of money to made in deceiving the masses.

https://baldmichael.substack.com/p/christian-drosten-german-virologist?utm_source=publication-search

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Robert Kogon's avatar

Hmm. My policy is to try to stay out of the comments here. But my view is that he is just bullshitting. He also appears not to have stayed on the famous Feb 1 conference call with Farrar, Fauci, Kristian Andersen et al. He said he had guests over and had to run! This from the "whistleblower letter" to Jon Cohen. The whistleblower doesn't say it was Drosten. But we can infer it was. Ron Fouchier stayed on the call and lambasted Andersen and the others. Same thing in the correspondence. Drosten cuts and runs while Fouchier does the heavy-lifting.

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Robert Kogon's avatar

He's a researcher. I've never heard anything to suggest he has a medical practice. I'd be astonished if he was treating anybody for anything (and I'd feel very fearful for those patients!). Moreover, as you know -- and I think Domini was alluding to this -- nothing special was going on in Germany at the time. There's no way he could have been "overloaded" with Covid-related patient work.

St Stephen's avatar

Nice investigation. There is and always was no doubt that the detestable bewigged Drosten and assorted Huns are involved up to their eyeballs in the covid charade.

(But then, who isn’t and who really is?)

Nevertheless, to my mind such revelations only add fuel to the virtual flames slowly and steadily fed to create ever more smoke screening the greater truth that there was no lab leak because there was no pandemic because there was no virus!

Christian Very-Important-Peruke and a multinational gain-of-fiction gang of germ-like opportunists were certainly instrumental in creating a pandemic of PCR tests based on a computer simulation.

But notwithstanding the endless opportunity for speculation, can we not now finally emerge from the bat cave into the sunlight, and leave labs, wet markets, imagined epicentres and pangolins behind? German or American, it’s the same fascist beast this time. And if we keep grabbing at its slippery tail we risk getting stuck in “One Health” animal droppings forever, which is, after all, the desired effect of an experiment on human lab rats.

(No apologies for the bestial metaphors.)

Godfree Roberts's avatar

According to the WHO inspection team, Covid did not exist there prior to September, 2019.

According to the CDC, 4-6 million Americans were Covid seropositive in December, 2019 and the world's first Covid death occurred in Kansas, before the first Chinese Covid death. So Covid must have been endemic in the US by April, 2019, to have spread so widely by December. This also fits the since debunked 'vaping' story.

St Stephen's avatar

It also fits that SARS-coV-2 does not exist and what Drosten's PCR flim-flam and the hysterical medical state of mind was designed to pick up was just about anything else - pneumonia, flu, the common cold, fragments of past infections of those - and call it "covid".

Godfree Roberts's avatar

June 1, 2021. WHO sends thirty Italian Covid biological samples from 2019 to Rotterdam’s Erasmus University laboratory for re-testing.

June 8, 2021. Erasmus University lab confirms that Italian samples from 2019 ‘are very similar to what (Italy's National Cancer Institute) discovered. The combined results made a convincing case that the Coronavirus or a similar virus was circulating in Italy months before the country's first officially recorded case’.

Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

If a virus escaped - either from WIV or the other facility - WHEN did it actually escape?

The most interesting anecdotes I've heard about Wuhan was that many visitors to the World Military Games got "sick" in mid-October. Also, reportedly, the parking lots of about five Wuhan hospitals were oddly full in ... September 2019.

I appreciate the line in this story that suggests a contagious virus doesn't necessarily HAVE to be "deadly." How many flu viruses or other coronaviruses are actually "deadly" to 99.9 percent of the population?

Richard Goldstein's avatar

Correct.

Also you accidentally blocked me on Twitter. I am having withdrawals from not getting your posts right away!

Richard Goldstein's avatar

Another great post by Jessica ❤️

Norman J Pieniazek's avatar

" Drosten is, of course, the German creator of the notoriously hypersensitive and unreliable Covid-19 PCR test which was the very basis of the declaration of a pandemic."

This is hogwash. You need to read more original papers and stop listening to unreliable, Pfizer-generated sources. NOTE: the Chinese authors of the first Wuhan virus paper used their own primers. They published their sequence in the paper describing Patient Zero. .

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Norman J Pieniazek's avatar

Some people argue that everybody and their cousins used Drosten’s protocol. They forget that none of the over 200 companies that got the EUA from the FDA in early 2020 used that protocol.

Pitcher's avatar

The Purpose of the System is What it Does? What does our global financial system do? Creates Financial Incentives. For what Purpose? Maybe something as silly as some utopian vision simulating what it would feel like to be an active participant at an infinite orgy taking place within The Singularity? Either way, it appears that the current owners are in a heated argument over whether or not to fire the entire current management team.

alwayscurious's avatar

If the lab leak theory and the natural origin virus animal to human are both not likely sources for making people ill, do any of you scientists commenting here have any idea how poisoning occurred, besides via direct transfection? And I'm not referring to all the uncalled for interventions either medical or social.