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Scaler Wave's avatar

To date, no one has claimed the million Euros offered to prove the claim that viruses even exist… odd

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Kim DiGiacomo's avatar

You know, this actually makes a lot of sense to me. When you step back and look at what happened, the whole “pandemic” story doesn’t add up the way they want us to believe. There was no massive die-off of healthy people across all ages, which is what any reasonable definition of a pandemic should mean. What we did see was data games, testing tricks, mislabeling deaths, and a level of propaganda like nothing we’ve ever experienced before.

The timeline alone stretches credibility, within a few short weeks they “discovered” a new virus, sequenced it, rolled out a global dashboard, and somehow had a peer-reviewed test ready to go. That’s not science, that’s choreography.

And I agree with PANDA’s point about the lab-leak vs. zoonotic-spillover debate. It’s a false choice that keeps the focus on “something escaped” rather than questioning if there was actually a pandemic at all. Both sides end up feeding the same “pandemic preparedness industry” that is already gearing up for the “next one.”

The real damage came from the response itself: shutting down health care, isolating people, scaring them, and then using bad data to justify more of the same. That’s what did the harm, not some invisible killer virus floating around.

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Baldmichael's avatar

It was all a test of one' ability to assess the conflicting data. They increased the silliness to see how long it would take for people to see through the scam.

https://baldmichael.substack.com/p/the-nature-of-false-binaries?utm_source=publication-search

https://baldmichael.substack.com/p/the-great-covid-retest?utm_source=publication-search

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Simon Baddeley's avatar

'Perplexity AI' tells me that I and PANDA are in 'denialist' mode e.g. 'Key hallmarks of denialism evident in this PANDA article include:

- Claiming there was no excess mortality or genuine pandemic despite robust mortality and infection data worldwide.

- Asserting that the virus was not novel and indistinguishable from common respiratory illnesses, which is contradicted by extensive genetic sequencing and disease profiles.

- Suggesting massive fraud, political motives, and propaganda campaigns behind the pandemic narrative without credible evidence.

- Rejecting established epidemiology and virology, and attributing health harms primarily to policy responses, again without solid grounding.

- Promoting a conspiracy worldview involving global financial and political elites manipulating the pandemic for gain.'

Had I asked a current LLM to express an 'opinion' about lobotomy in its heyday, I would probably be called a 'denialist'. I asked GROK:

'Answer: If an LLM from that era existed, its response would depend on its training data. Most likely, it would reflect the dominant medical consensus, labeling lobotomy as a valid therapy and possibly calling scepticism "denialist" if it leaned heavily on the era’s authoritative sources.”'

I asked GROK what a 16th century LLM would have made of heliocentrism: 'In essence, the LLM would echo the era's biases: geocentrism as self-evident truth, and heliocentrists as outliers worthy of ridicule, caution, or suppression.'

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Dr Phillip Chalmers's avatar

Amazing that even a machine is able to discern that this is total rubbish!

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Grazyna Samborska's avatar

GREAT COMMENTARIES BELOW, THUS I HAVE NOTHING TO ADD; excellent!!

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denise ward's avatar

That's right, there was no covid, no pandemic and viruses have never been proven to exist either. This was a huge trick played on the public. It was an IQ test. Probably a way of the ignorant to take themselves and their offspring, out of the gene pool. Transhumanism too is connected to this thus the insertion of nanobots and graphene oxide.

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Dr Phillip Chalmers's avatar

And yet, the "false" pandemic continues; new strains of the man-altered bat virus made into a potentially lethal human pathogen develop and kill people across the world under the name COVID. Vast numbers of people are still crippled in various ways by what is properly called Long COVID and I myself am just returning to health after my life has been threatened by it for more than two years.

Also, the virus from the green monkey in Africa continues to kill across the world under the diagnosis of AIDS. The previous "silent" pandemic.

And even older, the new strains of the influenza virus continue to kill people across the world under the diagnosis of the winter flu. In the prime of life, 55 years ago, I suffered from the Hong Kong influenza pandemic in 1970 and was left with prolonged peripheral neuropathy which slowly healed

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A T's avatar

1. We know for a fact that a false pandemic was perpetrated. Bill Gates told us on TED TALKS that 'vaccines' would be used to reduce the world's population. The global rulers have a code that they must inform the public of what they are doing. In so doing, the public is giving its silent consent. 2. Does no one remember 'debt crisis' and that an ageing baby boomer population is an untenable liability to them? 3. They are not going to drop a bomb on their own heads. It was already known that a vaccine could never be effective for any kind of coronavirus; assuming there is any effectiveness in vaccines in the first place; therefore if it were real, there would be no protection of the global ruling class and the people at the top still need a working class to support them. They could however duck a lethal injection posing as a vaccine. The logic is inescapable. There was no pandemic, there never needed to be one.

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Dr Alex Kennerly Vasquez's avatar

No conspiracy theory needed when you’ve got tons of evidence. America has had at least four fake pandemics in my lifetime and these are going to continue until the American people/government criminalize and penalize medical terrorism

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Arthur's avatar

When a person or a group of people lies, it leads to more and larger lies to cover-up the initial lie, which leads to a pandemic of lies. Isn't it much healthier to distrust everything we’re told by just about everyone in government in any capacity, in the media, and the entertainment industry, and be pleasantly surprised when someone tells the truth, than it is to readily believe what we are told and constantly be upset and disappointed when we learn we've been lied to …, again? Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me!

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Patrick Ferris's avatar

I was at first a useful idiot and went out of work, as recommended by my daughter and wife, both of whom work in hospitals, in February 2020. After much internet research (3 months worth) I decided the "Pandemic" was fake. Thank you God, for opening my eyes to the evil of this monster!

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Baldmichael's avatar

Amen

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Marc Debolt's avatar

the only real viral pandemic is the religious belief in state authority and magical thinking of collectivist ideals above individual autonomy.

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Baldmichael's avatar

and common sense.

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Marc Debolt's avatar

Every single aspect of most narratives of officialdom are BS. Skepticism by default is the only sane position but people have been conditioned to do just the opposite. They acquiesce to and believe their abusers, proven liars, no matter how bad it gets.

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A1987dM's avatar

Huh, the excess mortality in Bergamo in the first wave was way too big (like, half a year's worth of the usual death rate in a month) and way too early (~half of it *before* lockdowns started) to be plausibly explained by 3.a) to 3.d)

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Jonathan Engler's avatar

I’m not sure I understand. The entire thesis is that it was too big and too steep to be a novel spreading pathogen (which did nothing in neighboring regions !) so had to be something else.

That’s all that is being said there.

The implication of your comment is that you think the steepness of the curve and 800-1000% excess death rates seen SUPPORTS the novel spreading virus theory?

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Dr. Paul Alexander's avatar

hi Jonathan and Nick, see my stack here that I just posted up to showcase this good scholarship by Engler...it is well done:

https://palexander.substack.com/p/jonathan-englers-excellent-stack

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Dr. Paul Alexander's avatar

Hi Jonathan, I am taking the liberty of posting my stack here and I am placing this by PANDA in cue for it is striking deep into enemy territory.

https://palexander.substack.com/p/is-gain-of-function-gof-research

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David Swimmer's avatar

How best to drive change in the system..... Prepare, Beta test, test, deploy. was this the testing phase?

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